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#44265
S.O.S (Save Our Sills)!!!!!! 10 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 106
Was reading about a major cause of rust in MR2s...if water gets into the sponge (for sound deadening AFAIK) it causes moisture and serious rust..I've pulled the sponges out for good.

I'm trying to avoid THIS (not mine) and replace the sills:


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Read this thread http://www.mr2oc.co.uk/forums/41/148602.html and pulled the car apart :P

Whats the verdict on the below....what should I treat it with?

Cheers.



Tbar leak here (Passenger side) - so expected some surface rust here.


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Took foam out passenger side:

Uh-oh :(


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Checked - not too bad seems surface mainly...a bit up the side where you cant see in the photo


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Drivers side clean! Could get a proper look or photo but looked OK.


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#44266
Re: S.O.S (Save Our Sills)!!!!!! 10 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 32
Pretty much the same in my 2 too.
Luckily it's only surface rust. so far...

Anyways, I bought "Hammerite Kurust", so it's waiting on the self to be applied.

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#44279
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I have used that syuff, it works well. Give it a coat of clear Waxoil when you are done for good measure.
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#44282
Re: S.O.S (Save Our Sills)!!!!!! 10 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 106
Way ahead of you mate.. ..I grabbed some underseal as I heard it was better for what I'm trying to achieve here...any ideas?

Picked up in Halfords earlier..


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Done the weekly shop in aldi and spotted a ,woodcare brush set' for €3


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The angled brush is ideal for this job and makes it simples :).. ..tried the straight brush and it was tough to use in the small space especially with my Mars bar fingers


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First Coat dry (Kurust)


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Second coat on (Kurust)


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Will seal with the waxoyl tomorrow if I've time. Haven't checked the drivers side yet I jammed my hand in and it was all clear but may as well stick the waxoyl in there as well.
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#44283
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Is there much of a differents to the noise level?
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#44284
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ricky2 wrote:
Is there much of a differents to the noise level?

No idea the cars still in pieces

Decided against using the underseal, reckon.the smell will be too harsh for the interior
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#44285
Re: S.O.S (Save Our Sills)!!!!!! 10 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 108
eringobragh wrote:
ricky2 wrote:
Is there much of a differents to the noise level?

No idea the cars still in pieces

Decided against using the underseal, reckon.the smell will be too harsh for the interior



The smell won't last long
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ricky2 wrote:
eringobragh wrote:
ricky2 wrote:
Is there much of a differents to the noise level?

No idea the cars still in pieces

Decided against using the underseal, reckon.the smell will be too harsh for the interior



The smell won't last long


The underbody stuff has bitumen in it...prob just grab the clear stuff tomorrow
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#44287
Re: S.O.S (Save Our Sills)!!!!!! 10 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 80
i was a bit unfortunate with my sills im in the middle welding and painting them massive rot holes in them full of filler i have one repaired turned out perfect just tryin to organise the welder for the secon side now.
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#44295
Re: S.O.S (Save Our Sills)!!!!!! 10 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 25
The underseal will go hard where the pure Waxoil will penetrate into all the nooks and crannies when its hot and thin, then form a layer once it cools. Its better when its sprayed on, but its messy that way. The extension probe is worthwhile as well when using clear Waxoil, it doesnt work so well with the black but.

You did a good job with the crust, cleaned that up nicely.
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weeJohn wrote:
The underseal will go hard where the pure Waxoil will penetrate into all the nooks and crannies when its hot and thin, then form a layer once it cools. Its better when its sprayed on, but its messy that way. The extension probe is worthwhile as well when using clear Waxoil, it doesnt work so well with the black but.

You did a good job with the crust, cleaned that up nicely.


Cheers after MUCH reading I decided to go with Dynax S50 for the sills

www.cleancar.ie/bilt-hamber-dynax-s50.html

Going to spray abit in the drivers side as well

Shame that pitlane place closed would be ideal to do the underbody easily...another job to the growing list!
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#44384
Re: S.O.S (Save Our Sills)!!!!!! 10 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 47
Well done mate good thread ,I want to under seal my Mk1 at some stage this summer and was wondering what would be the best choice . Anybody got any preferences as to what I should use ?
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#44385
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TurboD wrote:
Well done mate good thread ,I want to under seal my Mk1 at some stage this summer and was wondering what would be the best choice . Anybody got any preferences as to what I should use ?

The waxoyl stuff is old news...dinitrol or bilt hamber is what to get

You can get the bilt hamber stuff from cleancar.ie

That dynax s50 arrived today..it's an aerosol with a really
Long tube for blind cavity work.,yet to use it but


Doing the underneath wait for the warm weather and wash it well in advance
otherwise your only trapping moisture
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#44402
Re: S.O.S (Save Our Sills)!!!!!! 10 Years, 2 Months ago Karma: 106
Rustproofed the sills today - Bilt Hamber Dynamax S50 arrived from cleancar.ie, already treated with Hammerite Kurust last week.


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AFTER (Still wet in Pic!):


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Will check the driver side sill when I get a chance and add some for good measure, but the foam was clear on drivers side so it'll keep!

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#44403
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Looks a lot neater than the waxoil sprayer, it goes fucking everwhere when you use it.

Not a fan of aerosol tins but, value for money thing just.
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weeJohn wrote:
Looks a lot neater than the waxoil sprayer, it goes fucking everwhere when you use it.

Not a fan of aerosol tins but, value for money thing just.


True they sell in 5 litre tins as well...reckon a garden sprayer and that would work well.

The €18 aerosol is cheaper then reweldinf the sills!

When I'm doin the under body I'll be going for the bulk action
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#46041
Re: S.O.S (Save Our Sills)!!!!!! 10 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 106
Finally got around to checking the drivers side sill...as suspected not much there as the foam came out cleat


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Treated the small rust spot with Hammerite Kurust


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Bilt Hamber Dynax S50 Cavity Wax to the rescue


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Only way to see into the cavity is with a digital camera..looks a mess but thats the way it supposed to! :)


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Panels still out till the fumes go...took a day or 2 when the passenger side was done.
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#46430
Re: S.O.S (Save Our Sills)!!!!!! 10 Years, 1 Month ago Karma: 106
Fucking Rain!

The aldi trolley ain't gonna cut the mustard with the MR2 ...couldn't even get the car up too the first notch on the axle stands.I realised its the first

time Ive used this jack since getting the car...I used the Halfords 3 tonne jack and was impressed with it, I recently got a halfords trade card so might

look into one of these

Anyway I decided while it was a dry day I'd get on with more rust proofing with the car on the ground...I've done the cavity inside the car...now I'm sorting

the sill from within the arch..some oxidisation had started (but just specks)...I treated both sides with Hammerite Kurust (2 coats).


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#46431
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i should really do this i just repaired my sills
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#46433
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cozzy90 wrote:
i should really do this i just repaired my sills

Without a doubt man...it seems to be the main problem area on the mk2s.. I take it you've pulled the foam anyway?

Make sure to use the bilt hamber stuff (can be got from cleancar.ie * no affiliation * ) I was showing greg 1973 a thread on the 200sx forums where they compared waxoyl to the dynax stuff and it ran rings about it.
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#46434
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I was going to suggest the Bilt Hamber stuff. I haven't used it yet (or bought it!) but the detailing site I use raves about it. There is also a brilliant long term write up which helps add weight to the longevity of the project.

I'm finally putting a bodykit on my car so that is turning out to be the ideal time to check everything... if only it would stop raining now!
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#57418
Re: S.O.S (Save Our Sills)!!!!!! 9 Years, 3 Months ago Karma: 106
...another problem area on the MR2 I believe..

Took out the boot liner to check for rust, etc after reading (and seeing) the rear arches can become chocolate on some of the UK cars

- The initial boot looks good.


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....I topped up the factory proofing witj some BiltHamber Dynax S50 Cavity wax


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Check the arches - there is some rust there alright as suspected but thankfully it's only surface:


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I tried to sand the rush but its very tight so I had a B&Q dremmel with an extension chuck so managed to grind most it off and then used the bilthamber sulfex degreaser.



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While the carpet was out it could do with a good clean with FAB interior cleaner (from cleancar.ie) - there was stains and rust spots here and there

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AFTER:


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....pcitures dont do this justice but, it's night and day the carpet is now spotless and colour is back & ut's like new , I'm waiting for the Kurust to harden in the arches before I dynax that as well, tomorrow at this stage!


......................prevention is better than cure ;)
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#58581
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....with the dry weather I decided to finish rust proofing the rest of the sills


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There is 4 drain plug holes each side, they can be tricky to remove if you jam in a thin screw driver and jiggle and wedge it you can - I managed to get mine all out and back in without braking them but if you manage to break them the part number is 90950-01327 and Toyota tell me they are €1.72 - Linders Chapelizod have never had one in stock anyway!


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I injected rest of the sills again with Dynax S50, it's tube attachment is ideal for 360degree coverage...I ran out half way through the passenger side, but have used this alot with the rear arches and the sill cavities internally. Ordered another can of the stuff as it's preventatie maintenance worth doing.

You'll need to lay carpet or something down as the dynax creeps through every joing - also reinstalling the plastic drain plug holes , a rubber mallet gets them back in nice and tight.


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Dynaxed part of the sill lip that was jacked up in the wrong place by a previous owner


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