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1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 19
Hi Guys & Gals, I have replaced both rear handbrake cables on my car as the old ones were siezed & I put new rear brake pads on it & adjusted handbrake but my handbrake still isnt great, it will hold the car alright but if you pull up the handbrake when the car is moving, even on a wet road it wont lock the rear wheels. Just wondering is this normal or is everyones handbrake like this? My next step is to replace both rear calipers for reconditioned ones - pricey enough though.
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#15154
Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 235
I wouldnt say its normal, but on both the mr2's ive had, Ive really had to pull the handbrake back as far as I could, I was leaning against my car the other day and i felt it move a bit and had to pull the hanbrake back further etc
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#15171
Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 19
If you pull up your handbrake when car is moving will it lock the rear wheels up? Mine wont, id say its just that the calipers are not as good as they should be. Will prob end up changing them for 2 reconditioned ones from camskill. Thats who i got the rear cables from.
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Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 213
All the wieght of the engine is over the rear end and the drive is to the rear wheels, thats your reason. An MR car will not lock the rear wheels via the hand brake unless the clutch is depressed and you have the handbrake adjusted up to the last or have the front suspension fully loaded and no weight on the rear axles.

If you are trying to lock the wheels when drivng the car I would suggest you get a hydraulic handbrake installed.

If the handbrake is stopping the car rolling on three click then it is perfectly normal, if not it needs to be adjusted.
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#15177
Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 3
lol, why would you want to lock the rear wheels up when moving anyway?
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Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 148
I agree with all the lads, perfectly normal. Its a parking brake, designed to hold the car in place on level ground or an incline, which is all it should do. Ray explained it well, too much weight and drive on the rear axle to lock it up while in motion. Wont even lock on loose gravel.
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#15308
Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 19
Cheers Lads, that sums it up so. My handbrake will stop the car from rolling alright so i guess its working perfect.Has anyone fitted an aftermarket intercooler yet? Japspeed.ie have one on their website for sale. I bought a 4-2-1 Stainless Steel Manifold from them for my last car and the quality of their stuff seems to be good. Im thinking about buying the intercooler for my mr2. Wonder will it make much, if any difference on power compared to the standard toyota one.
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Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 148
I have a greddy IC but it was in the car when I bought it.

Upgrading the IC does make a difference to power, because, with the extra cooling capacity, you can turn your boost up a little. However, you cant go too mad without upgrading other parts also, you dont want to ruin the engine.

Standard factory boost is 0.8bar. You could maybe go 0.9 or 1 bar quite comfortably. Some will say up to 1.2. Any more than that though, you would want forged internals, then you can confidently run up to 2 bar (INSANE power anyway)

I recently turned my boost up from 0.9 to 1.1 and the difference is nuts. The car feels like its on steroids but it still feels very smooth, steady and consistant right up through the revs.
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#15323
Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 19
Cool does it really make that much difference turning up the boost. How did you do that? have you an electronic boost controller or a manual one? Are they hard to fit?
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Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 148
Yeah, it does make a difference, deffo. I couldn't believe the difference. For me it was pretty easy, I have an Apexi Power FC ECU with the hand held commander. I also have an Apexi Electronic boost controller (EBC as opposed to MBC). My EBC is controlled via the ECU and hand commander.

EBC's require a bit of wiring and plumbing but should come with comprehensive instructions. An MBC would be pretty cheap and easier to fit, but you have to stop and start driving to change. A good EBC will allow you to change while driving.

Some people have a full standalone EBC, that's handy, gives you more options and a direct view of whats going on. These can be dash mounted or wherever you like.

If you come to a meet we can have a look, you can look at some of our set ups, see how they work and so on. You are in Kildare right?
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#15326
Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 19
Yeah im in Monasterevin, will have to meet up alright, Your in Sallins? Could meet ya around Naas some afternoon if your on
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#15327
Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 148
Yeah deffo, ill give you a shout.
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#15328
Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 19
Sounds good dude
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Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 3
if you upping your power you always need supporting modifications such as an intercooler to make sure your not going to ruin the car. 1.1 is enough boost to make a big difference under foot, and i wouldnt recommend any higher unless you have forged internals. Grab an xs power intercooler, people will rip them apart but the simple fact is... if you only going for a bit more power, they will work quite nicely!!

I run a blitz spec r boost controller, you could get yourself a spec s one on one of the forums as they let you boost up to 1.3 bar. Mine was fantastic when i had it, and very safe to use.

Ive a greddy IC at the momemnt, and will work grand, even with me going for 2 bar of boost. whey hey!! side ways.... wall..... more money.... but sure its all part of the fun!!
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Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 19
Yeah i think i will go for the Japspeed or xs power intercooler.They are probably the very same one. Im not planning any major power upgrades. Not yet anyway. The guy i got the car off said that the Turbo had uprated internals.I dont know though but it is very quick. It has a HKS Wastegate and other HKS bits in the engine bay & There are 2 HKS Clocks in a pillar pod inside, One is a boost guage, not sure what the other one is to be honest. Maybe when i meet a few of you guys at the next meet you might be able to shine some light on it
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#15360
Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 3
yea mate, be happy to have a look sometime
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Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 148
If the turbo has uprated internals, that means it's a CT20b Hybrid. The CT20b has a ceramic turbine (blades) whereas the CT26 (later models)has steel internals. The CT20b is considered a better, more consistant turbo, with more power, but the weak point is the ceramics. Some people will replace the ceramics with the steel internals, creating a pretty nice turbo, the CT20b hybrid. So you're a lucky boy! All the HKS goodies sound good too.

Sure i'll meet up with you during the week and we can have a good close look. Did you buy that car in Kildare? I think I remember seeing that one for sale when I was buying mine, approx 5 months ago now.
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#15436
Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 19
I bought, well swapped the car for my last car (Accord type R) with a guy from Tullamore. Before that i think a guy from Tipperary had it. Not sure if mine is a CT20B or CT26 turbo. would i be able to see it on the turbo housing what model it is?
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#15441
Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 148
Oh, ok, just looks familiar. Maybe I was looking at it on donedeal or something.

You have a CT26. The CT20b was Rev 1 & 2, after that it was CT26.
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#15445
Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 19
Yeah it was on donedeal alright in June. I got the car the end of June.
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#15446
Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 76
SWAGGER wrote:

You have a CT26. The CT20b was Rev 1 & 2, after that it was CT26.

Your the wrong way round Swagger ct26 was rev1,2 (6 studs on the hot side for the down pipe) ct20b is rev3+ (7 studs for the down pipe)
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#15450
Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 148
Cheers Ricky, I keep doing that. Gotta straighten that out in my head!

So Steelheart, as from a few posts back, you have a CT20b Hybrid.

Just copped how you came up with your username.....im so slow this bank holiday weekend! LOL
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Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 19
Haha no bother Swagger, I actually got the name "steelheart" from an American Rock band from the 80s/90s with that name. They were awesome.
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Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 148
Oh, well that is a coincidence then, seeing as though you now drive a turbo with a steel heart! Very fitting name indeed!
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Re:1995 rev 3 Mr2 Turbo rear brakes question 1 Year, 6 Months ago Karma: 19
Sure is swagger, well spotted man
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