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Which engine is this? 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Hi lads, i'm looking at a car and am suspect over the engine in it - is this a low power 3s-Fe or 170hp 3s-ge?
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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It looks like the 3S-GE to me, is that Claires car, she used to be active on the site a couple of years ago.
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"Happier than a tornado in a trailer park"
"Just as in cuisine, the ‘flavor’ of a car is quite important…”
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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This is the 3S-FE engine, came in the early MR2's and celicas.
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Also the timing belt cover should have 3S-GE embossed on it in white writing on the one you posted.
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"Happier than a tornado in a trailer park"
"Just as in cuisine, the ‘flavor’ of a car is quite important…”
Hiromu Naruse 1943-2010 RIP |
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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It's not as it happens, that is a pic I pulled off the web.
I'm thinking of looking at this - anyone know the car?
cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2961346
I wasn't 100% sure if it was the 3s-Ge due to it being pre-94 but am I right in saying that all jap imports should have the 3S-Ge? |
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Its def 3sge.
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Last Edit: 2012/02/02 13:31 By Infamous.
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Thanks guys
I read the Wiki page before alright but I don't trust them 100%, hence the question are all JDM Mk2 n/a MR2's 3SGE's (except beams)?
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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I don't think all imports are 3S-GE engined, powerwise the 3SGE give:
Rev I ??? bhp
Rev II are 154 bhp
Rev III 173 bhp
Rev 4+ are 168 bhp
Edit: I think at this stage you would be hard pushed to find an MR2 with the FE engine in it, I could be wrong though but they are visually completly different engines.
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Last Edit: 2012/02/02 13:45 By slipsliderg.
"Happier than a tornado in a trailer park"
"Just as in cuisine, the ‘flavor’ of a car is quite important…”
Hiromu Naruse 1943-2010 RIP |
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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3sfe came with either 112bhp or 121bhp rev limited 6600rpm i had this engine in a celica very reliable but quite dead 3sge different league yamaha head tvis/acis etc.
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Yikes, didn't think there were that much of a difference in the powers...
What years are the different Revs?
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Kingers wrote:
Thanks guys
I read the Wiki page before alright but I don't trust them 100%, hence the question are all JDM Mk2 n/a MR2's 3SGE's (except beams)?
Yes all later JDM MR2's that were NA were fitted with the 3SGE like the one you first posted. The only other NA engine offered from the factory was the Beams one that you already mentioned.
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Kingers wrote:
Yikes, didn't think there were that much of a difference in the powers...
What years are the different Revs?
Not sure but if u drive it and push it to its limit the 3sge will hit 7250rpm! and u will feel peak torque come after 4k, 3sfe has abit low down torque but its all over by 5500rpm. Really only way to no  def looks like a rev1/2 3sge in the photo 156bhp.
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Kingers wrote:
Yikes, didn't think there were that much of a difference in the powers...
What years are the different Revs?
Rev 1 ... 89 - 92
Rev 2 ... 92 - 93
Rev 3 ... 93 - 96
Rev 4 ... 96 - 98
Rev 5 ... 98 - 99
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Great info, thanks guys. Best to stick to post 94 so.
Anyone got a pick of a Rev 3 3S-GE for future reference?
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Kingers wrote:
Great info, thanks guys. Best to stick to post 94 so.
Anyone got a pick of a Rev 3 3S-GE for future reference?
Thats the one in the 1st pic above.
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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The engines will look pretty much the same, you can tell what revision the car is by other things like the spoiler and tail lights and chasis no etc.
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Last Edit: 2012/02/02 14:27 By Infamous.
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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b]weeJohn wrote:[/b]
Kingers wrote:
Great info, thanks guys. Best to stick to post 94 so.
Anyone got a pick of a Rev 3 3S-GE for future reference?
Thats the one in the 1st pic above.
Eh I don't think so - that's a 92 car, so it's Rev 2.
Edit - is this a Rev 3 3s-Ge?
admin.rpmgarage.com/resize.php?pic=attac...epb.jpg&size=640 |
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Last Edit: 2012/02/02 14:33 By Kingers.
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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The engines of all the 3sge will look pretty much the same man, there were a few minor things that were changed in increase power in the later revisions.
I will get you some info now on how to tell the difference in the revs.
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 2 Weeks ago
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Here is a list of the chasis no's.
www.mr2oc.co.uk/know-your-2-knowledge-ba...tid=7&kbartid=98
Rev 1-2 Rear (note the spoiler and rear lights)
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Rev 3-4 Rear (now see the difference in spoiler and rear lights)
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Rev 5 Rear (same tail lights as rev 3 and 4, different spoiler)
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You should check not only the differences in bodywork but also the chasis number as some people chop and change these things to their own tastes or sometimes to disguise the real age of a car, this is just a general guide. |
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Last Edit: 2012/02/02 15:20 By Infamous.
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 1 Week ago
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Ok guys, went to look at a Rev 3 tonight, it was a 95 Uk car, so it should have the 3S-GE and from examining the cam cover I could see a Yamaha sticker. However, it looked like this motor - admin.rpmgarage.com/resize.php?pic=attac...epb.jpg&size=640
Different to 3S-Ge in the opening post.
I'm properly confused now - was their a difference between JDM and European Rev 3 3S-GE's?
Perhaps those of you with JDM / Uk Rev 3's might confirm which of these pics match their engines. |
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 1 Week ago
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Kingers wrote:
Ok guys, went to look at a Rev 3 tonight, it was a 95 Uk car, so it should have the 3S-GE and from examining the cam cover I could see a Yamaha sticker. However, it looked like this motor - admin.rpmgarage.com/resize.php?pic=attac...epb.jpg&size=640
Different to 3S-Ge in the opening post.
I'm properly confused now - was their a difference between JDM and European Rev 3 3S-GE's?
Perhaps those of you with JDM / Uk Rev 3's might confirm which of these pics match their engines.
Yeah thats a 3SGE alright..on the Yamaha end of things, they are all BEAMS if they are badged with Yamaha (correct me if I'm wrong)
Here's a pic of mine from a Rev5 (UK) [dynoed at 160]:
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Last Edit: 2012/02/06 20:50 By eringobragh.
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 1 Week ago
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Infamous wrote:
Kingers wrote:
Yikes, didn't think there were that much of a difference in the powers...
What years are the different Revs?
Rev 1 ... 89 - 92
Rev 2 ... 92 - 93
Rev 3 ... 93 - 96
Rev 4 ... 96 - 98
Rev 5 ... 98 - 99
I've a 00 Rev5 
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 1 Week ago
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eringobragh, you are wrong on this one , beams engine below, refered to as redtop.
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This is a picture of my Rev III JDM engine.
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And a picture of the UK rev IV I looked at a while ago, not much of a difference except for the EGR emmissionins stuff.
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"Happier than a tornado in a trailer park"
"Just as in cuisine, the ‘flavor’ of a car is quite important…”
Hiromu Naruse 1943-2010 RIP |
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 1 Week ago
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^ I can live with that  Out of curiousity why did the engine Kingers viewed have a Yamaha logo (not a red top).
I know the 3SGE was a combined effort between Toyota and Yamaha, I didn't know that non beams were badged with Yamaha? |
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 1 Week ago
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Most of the performance heads on Toyota cars were developed and built (AFAIK) by Yamaha, long history of development between them.
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"Happier than a tornado in a trailer park"
"Just as in cuisine, the ‘flavor’ of a car is quite important…”
Hiromu Naruse 1943-2010 RIP |
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 1 Week ago
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slipsliderg wrote:
Most of the performance heads on Toyota cars were developed and built (AFAIK) by Yamaha, long history of development between them.
Read that somewhere alright..apparently the 3SGE is one of the best mainstream engine Toyota has ever produced.
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 1 Week ago
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eringobragh wrote:
slipsliderg wrote:
Most of the performance heads on Toyota cars were developed and built (AFAIK) by Yamaha, long history of development between them.
Read that somewhere alright..apparently the 3SGE is one of the best mainstream engine Toyota has ever produced.
After the 3SGTE of course
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 1 Week ago
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Kingers wrote:
Ok guys, went to look at a Rev 3 tonight, it was a 95 Uk car, so it should have the 3S-GE and from examining the cam cover I could see a Yamaha sticker. However, it looked like this motor - admin.rpmgarage.com/resize.php?pic=attac...epb.jpg&size=640
Different to 3S-Ge in the opening post.
I'm properly confused now - was their a difference between JDM and European Rev 3 3S-GE's?
Perhaps those of you with JDM / Uk Rev 3's might confirm which of these pics match their engines.
Its the same engine dude. Your more recent pic is just a tidier and cleaner example.
Take a look at the how two section onhere at the thread on how to spot differences properly. VIN is the best way but bear in mind engines can be changed.
Good luck with your purchase
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Re: Which engine is this? 3 Months, 1 Week ago
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